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World Oilfield Forum
Dear all Using cathead spinning chain has been banned in some drilling contractors?
Can be used for making up the joints, e,g attach to manual tong?
What are the real hazards for this operation?
Any comments highly appreciated!
James
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Permalink Reply by kevin on bwahahahaha......lets see....Average stand of drill pipe , 91.5 ft. block, top drive assembly around 18 ft , you must be damn good workin with 10 ft. how do you latch on the run ? and 12 on the bank in 2 hours....i think you've just qualified for oilfield god....lmao. even if you could do it in 2 hours any company man that would let you is a bigger idiot than you.
Permalink Reply by Nic Morris on Go work in wyoming on the mesa and looks like you will get a rude awakening. If all that is too far fetched and stupid in your eyes, you wouldnt last a hitch. The mesa is a totally different world of drilling then any other place, and obvisouly you must not be able to run a rig very good.
Permalink Reply by Tommy Williams on Sorry Nic, I've gotta throw the Bull Sh*t flag in on this one. Kevin is right, any Co Man that would let you pull pipe that fast would've been releaved as soon as the office found out about it. I've been training Co Men - Tool Pushers & Roughnecks for 15 years on how to do their jobs right the first time. So save the TALL TAILS for those that don't know any better, there's too much experiance on here to beleive that story.
PS: And yes I have worked in Wyo. on the Mesa.
Permalink Reply by Nic Morris on The key thing you guys missed was can pull that fast, that matters on hole condition, and what hands are in what position. It wasnt done that fast all the time, but was usually pulled pretty quick. Some company man wanted it done that fast and some didnt. Not sure when you worked on the mesa but in the last few years it has came along ways and is way different then it used to be in like pre 2009. The company we were working for had an average of 10 days per well to a MD of 14000 for the average. pre 2009 it was 20-30 days a well and back in 04,05 and earlier the average was 60+ days a well. Back then it was also done with water base mud, and now its done with oil based mud. Spud to 6000' is drilled with water and high vis sweeps, then swapped to oil base about that depth. We drilled pad wells with about 18 wells on each pad, average 7" casing shoe was set at 10500. Alot of the wells years ago were 4 strings of casing hanging a liner. The wells on the jonah field which is south of the mesa only run 2 strings of casing to an average MD of 13,000'. I have about 6 years working on the mesa and areas right next to it and its alot different then anywhere else I have ever been. There cookie cutter wells were you know most everything that is going to happen. My main point on the post was you can trip just as quick with all the new technology as you could with tongs and a spinning chain.
Chains are not banned for my company but are only supposed to be used when we have no other choice. We use pipe spinners. Broke out old school w/chain and have seen more wormbites w/ the spinners than I ever seen w/chain.
Permalink Reply by cable neff on Just recently on our rig we started using spinners full-time, Now I do have some reservations when pulling a wet string and can't rotate out as on our floor there's just not enough room for all the equipment and hands, was like a ballet getting the job done, but have been told we can use chain untill january then it comes off.. what a hassle.
Permalink Reply by Mike Swank on I haven't seen a spinning chain in 6 yrs I don't care to see another one. I've seen the after effects of roughnecks losing too many fingers. I think OSHA should ban all spinning chains!
Permalink Reply by Jeff Stoner on Bro, its not the chains that hurt ppl, its ppl that do not know how to work around a chain. Everyone on the crew has to respect the chain and everyone has to know what to do and when to do it when using a chain.
Permalink Reply by bill the drill on It's gone in the north sea some thing's change for the worse ( I do miss the chain)
Permalink Reply by Jeff Stoner on I quit working motors(chains) when they banned the spinning chain. Forget Ironroughnecks, kelly spinners, pipe spinners, that is all crap. Give me a rig with a kelly, catheads, tongs, a spinning chain and a wireline manual totco survey tool and I am happy. The biggest problem with the chain is getting in a hurry. Either the hand or the driller starts rushing. You do not have to rush to be the quickest. When tripping, get warmed up, get a groove and slowly speed it up till the entire crew is comfortable with a quick routine and you will out trip everyone else that is (in a hurry.) Depending on if the well you are on can handle tripping at that speed, that is. Never want to swab or surge the well.
Permalink Reply by bill the drill on Well Jeff
that's the most true thing I have heard from an american driller swabbing during the well a lot of drillers seen to think tripping fast is it.
Maybe that is why there is so many well control problems out on the US rigs
The safety of the crew and the rig come first the oil been down there a long time a few more minutes or hours wont make a bit of difference
Seen it all to often when the driller gets carried away and thing's go wrong
Permalink Reply by kevin on very well said.....its like i told a lil young hot rod driller one time that thought fast where was where it was at....i have yet to see anybody get a bonus , a trophy , a certificate , a pat on the back or even a cap from anybody in the main office for bein the fastest pipe puller or runner on a rig, the only thing i've seen is burnt out hands and people hurt because a green brake weight wants to show everybody how fast he can trip pipe. my dad work on a rig from worm corner to tool pusher for almost 50 yrs and like he told me why rush your paid by the hour and what you leave today when you get off will be waitin tommorrow when you get back if the other crew don't get to it.
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