No pride

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Permalink Reply by etienne willeaux miller on July 13, 2009 at 11:19pm

Act like a grown up. Realize that you have a job to do that requires set and preplanned dedicated tasks , and, make sure the tasks are completed by the best effort you can give . And i had a captian for Gulffleet marine tell me when i was 19" if your best effort doesnt cut it to get the job done ----- well you are gonna have to go". When i was laid of from H@P, the guys who realived us our last day, 26 minutes late, sat in the doghouse and motioned for us to come inside!Guys told us they have never worked on one of the new supersingles and didnt really now where everything was located and what to do.Asked the guys if they would walk with us around the rig and we could show them where we had minor problems during rig moves and where we had cut down our time dramatically for rigging down the VFD house and we were told "No f--koff well getit done!"Wasnt very impressed about the gusy who we were replaced with.If some one had told me that i could save hours and look good by rigging down up and spudding in in less than 18 hours i would have at least giving the respest of hearing the person out.

Permalink Reply by Altie Johnny Fox on July 14, 2009 at 4:45am

check tools , rember the company now sends office types or engineers, get my hands dirty.?

Permalink Reply by Robert A. Jones on July 14, 2009 at 2:30pm

I agree, definitely a lack of pride out here. For tool hands, there are so many guys that go out to a job with only what they see laid out for them, they barely look to see what is on their call-sheet, ( or whatever ), & head to location with what the shop hands had laid out for them without checking to make sure everything is good to go. Once they get on location, I see a good amount of them go let the co. man know they were there, then go to their pickups or trailers & camp out before ever checking, measuring, & calipering any tools that were at the job site before they get there. Then when it's their turn to do their job, they still have to measure, caliper, & check everything. If a X-over or tool is wrong when they go to make them up, then the company & rig is on downtime waiting for the proper equipment to be hot-shotted out. This is completely rediculous, if they had done their job & checked their equipment right when they got there, & something wasn't right, they usually could have had it hot-shotted out & ready to go before they were needed on the floor. Another thing I have noticed on rigs for the last few years is, very few crews out there have the floor ready for the next task, & God forbid there be a 24", 36", 48" Pipe wrench &/or a pair of chain tongs be on or near the floor when it's time to make up tools. Personally, trying to be a good hand; I will call the co. man before heading to a job to let him know I am headed his way, & to make sure there isn't anything extra he needs that was not mentioned on my call sheet due to any lack in communication prior. Once I have checked my equipment & I know it is good to go, I will go to the floor & let the driller & his crew know what tools we will need on the floor at the time when we go to make up my tools, instead of getting up there to make up BHA & waited for hands to comb the rig looking for pipe wtenches, etc. to getthe job done. I was taught to do this by many old shcool guys when I broke out running tools, & I haven't stopped yet.

Permalink Reply by George Henry Pennings on July 14, 2009 at 9:46pm

I seen this before, my back ground runnin tools was from workin little outhouse shops, the manager could run pretty much any product line under the shop roof, together you were the shop hand, dispatcher, inventory "tech", tool dresser, snow shoveler and tool hands. There was no backin into the shop drop your tools off and to the bar..... your stuff was tore down cleaned up and in the hot tub so ya could be ready for inspection in the morning. It took some gettin used to.... having some else load yer stuff out and send it out once I went workin bigger outfits and offshore and I still wasn,t comforable untill I had checked everything personally. I have had to releive guys that got run off, cuz they got on board and went and hid in their room, TV room and galley for coupla days and then when the job came up did not have the right grapples for the job. when that sort of thing happens we all look like incompetent idiots, I do not care if I gotta get the crane or forklift and empty an overstacked basket to get it sorted, if you didnt check it personally in town you had beter getter done as soon as you got your bunk and co-man meeting sorted. That was the old school way I was taught and still preach.

Permalink Reply by Robert A. Jones on July 15, 2009 at 7:44am

That'll definitely drive ya nuts when that happens with someone, when I can, I try to have two of everything ( if not more ) when possible. I was caught with my pants down on one of my first tool jobs & didn't have a back-up grapple for an overshot I was running. I had a good bite on a fish that I was jarring out of the hole, then the grapple gave up. I realized I didn't have a spare in the pick-up after we started out of the hole. Luckily the shop was less than 30 minutes from location, so I ran in town, got a two spare grapples of that size & the next size smaller. With luck on my side that I didn't get a speeding ticket, I was back at the rig before they were out of the hole with my tools. Though I was able to save my own tail, I beat myself up for a week over that & swore that if I could help it, I would never put myself in that situation again. I screwed up by not thinking, but at least I had pride in myself & my worth as a tool hand, so I quickly remedied the problem instead of acting like it was no big deal.

Permalink Reply by George King on July 22, 2009 at 1:40am

Amen to this i think we will see a turn around in this kind of attitude... When i started you better have your stuff together or there was another waiting at the cattle gap to take your job. These guys that are here just for a check i have no tolerance for them and it seems they are being weeded out thank the good lord for this because i am getting tired of being a worm wrangler

Permalink Reply by Brian Lizotte on July 22, 2009 at 2:18am

Ijust lost my job 3 months ago after 28 years in the pacth now i clean rooms in the the hosptie i still have this thing about trippining pipe just makes me happy there is nothing like sound of pipe hitting the the back of the gatters to wake a man up i am 51 years young and can still gittter done

Permalink Reply by George King on July 22, 2009 at 2:27am

Amen Brother

Permalink Reply by Galen Cox on July 22, 2009 at 7:40am

Brian nice to hear that you like the sound of the pipe. What I have to say about that is yes, yes....